Revised Point Structure for 2013 Majors, National Races

RonInSD

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Revised Point Structure for 2013 Majors, National Races

TOPEKA, Kan. (October 26, 2012) – The Sports Car Club of America’s Board of Directors today announced the point structure to be used for the 2013 U.S. Majors Tour Conference Championships, the National Points Championship and Divisional Points Championships. The point standings will be used for all 28 SCCA National Championship Runoffs-eligible classes.

The 2013 point structure eliminates the bonus points previously used for the National point championship, and weights the Majors races more heavily than in the past for each Championship. All 28 Runoffs-eligible classes will crown a Majors champion in each of the four Conferences, as well as a single overall National point champion in each class.

“The National Point Standings included bonus points to weight better attended races more than lesser attended races,” Jerry Wannarka, SCCA Chairman, said. “The goal of the U.S. Majors Tour is to cluster competition, eliminating the need to count bonus points. Instead, those races will simply be given more weight, with more drivers scoring points.”

Races held during the Majors weekends that will be a part of the 2013 schedule will award points to the top 20 finishers in each class. Race winners will earn 22 points, followed by 19 and 17 for podium finishes. Beginning with 16 for fourth place, points will decrease by one for each of the remaining top-20 finishers, with 19th and 20th each receiving one point.

“After much discussion, it was determined that keeping the points as simple as possible was the desire,” Wannarka continued. “The simple way to view the Majors event points is that the events are on a ‘plus 10’ schedule from the traditional points. The top nine finishers earn the regular points, plus 10. Then from 10th on down, the points start at 10 and decrease by one through 19th, with an additional point for the 20th place finisher to round the points-paying positions out.”

Points for the non-Majors National races will remain on the traditional point scale for the top nine, with no bonus points.

Code:
2013 Point Structure
Finishing    Majors    Traditional
Pos.                    National

1	          22	       12
2	          19	       9
3	          17	       7
4	          16          6
5	          15	       5
6	          14	       4
7	          13	       3
8	          12	       2
9	          11	       1
10	         10	 
11	         9	 
12	         8	 
13	         7	 
14	         6	 
15	         5	 
16	         4	 
17	         3	 
18	         2 	 
19	         1	 
20	         1

The races scored toward each of the four geographic Conference Championships on the U.S. Majors Tour will be based on the number of actual races held in each conference, with a driver getting a number of “drops” in his or her Conference. While most, but not all, Majors events will be doubleheader weekends, a Conference that hosts 11 or 12 races will count the top eight finishes toward the Championship. A Conference that hosts nine or 10 races will score the best seven finishes, and if a Conference held only eight races, the top six would score toward the Conference Championship.

Outside of the new point structure and the elimination of the bonus points, the National Point Championship will be tallied in the same way as 2012, with a driver able to count his or her best seven races regardless of Division or Conference affiliation. Similarly, the Divisional Championships will count both non-Majors Nationals and Majors races, with the only change being the revised point structure for Majors events.

The qualification path to the 50th National Championship Runoffs will be announced during the PRI show in Orlando, Fla., in December, following a discussion and vote at the SCCA Board of Directors meeting. The complete U.S. Majors Tour schedule will also be announced in the coming weeks.

Additional information on the U.S. Majors Tour is available at http://www.sccamajors.com.
 
You have to be kidding. Wow, that made it simple for sure. So let me get this straight, All that and I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE WILL QUALIFY FOR THE RUNOFFS? I'm sure glad that we don't yet have this ultra-hard to understand issue to confuse us.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you run majors and do well, you can be XYZ Division champion, you can be majors conference champion and majors champion and not yet gone to RA? That sure will be good for our divisions, won't it?
Oh boy, can't wait until PRI to find out how simply it will be to get to RA.
I'm sure that if you do a translation into some little known language, you will find that SCCA translates to rich man's racing. How can anyone be so inane that they think this is good for the average racer. OOps, sorry, I forgot, SCCA isn't any longer about the average racer. On the up side, since it is all becoming pro racing we will get to at least fire one VP:)
 
PS, so why do we have to wait for PRI to find out how to qualify for the runoffs? Hmmmm. Maybe to give them time to figure it out. Or maybe to give all of us time to figure out all of the gobbledygook in the media release before we have to deal with another equally complicated piece of pre-used food.
But be sure, they are doing this for us:)
For sure

Harold Flescher":36noighq said:
You have to be kidding. Wow, that made it simple for sure. So let me get this straight, All that and I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE WILL QUALIFY FOR THE RUNOFFS? I'm sure glad that we don't yet have this ultra-hard to understand issue to confuse us.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you run majors and do well, you can be XYZ Division champion, you can be majors conference champion and majors champion and not yet gone to RA? That sure will be good for our divisions, won't it?
Oh boy, can't wait until PRI to find out how simply it will be to get to RA.
I'm sure that if you do a translation into some little known language, you will find that SCCA translates to rich man's racing. How can anyone be so inane that they think this is good for the average racer. OOps, sorry, I forgot, SCCA isn't any longer about the average racer. On the up side, since it is all becoming pro racing we will get to at least fire one VP:)
 
I was hoping for an " open runoffs" with running 2-3 races and qualifying at Nats, on site by speed.
This is still an elitist system that keeps out the little guy ,like me, or more importantly , My Son.
Work, college, pay bills.
No chance for us in '13.
MM
 
The word that I just got, was that the final nats quailfying rules are not done.
Please send you request to your RE and BOD.
 
We all know how racers travel to the tracks. Ya can figure the rest.

Scott Tucker

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The best feel I got this year from a traveling racer leaving the Runoffs was Greg Ira E prod racer heading back to Fl. with his open trailer behind his van with him driving.
 
Argggg. Mflswkm !!!!
I should be tearing my hair out, but no surprise. They built part of a bridge and now have to figure out how to build the other half. How on God's green Earth can they set up a set of points rules for majors and natls that are so complex that they need multiple simultaneous equations, and haven't figured out how these rules will affect runoffs qual? The word stupidity comes to mind, but that is far to smooth. Idiocy feels better but not still applicable. Maybe what fits best is resting their heads in individual warm, dark, moist areas of their own body. Absurd. Who elected these dolts? When will the volunteers stand up for the folks they represent, errr or maybe they have been having too many sponsor parties



Protech Racing":rrqu0dpm said:
The word that I just got, was that the final nats quailfying rules are not done.
Please send you request to your RE and BOD.
 
I'm looking forward to this, but I guess I'm still young enough to accept new things. :lol:

It looks like a copy of the Solo program modified for Club racing. It also appears maybe the "They only race for 6 minutes around cones for a National Championship" folks have a pretty good program, numbers haven't dropped like Club's have over the years.

I'm sure a big part of the wait is for the Divisions to finalize the schedules for next year. RM's won't be out until sometime in November.

Can't wait to see the posts when they announce the Runoffs will be in Laguna Seca!! :bananahead:

Doesn't matter what I have to do or where I have to go, I'll be at the Runoffs, where ever they are, in 2014.
 
At least they included in the release that the BOD would be meeting in person soon to "vote" on some of the things still not thought through LOL :lol:

I am all for this change. It is needed, but this is now beyond embarrassing. This press release only answers a question nobody ask, then at the same time confesses and highlights everything we should and need to know by now, but don't.

There is a saying in business something like.......a mediocre plan flawlessly implemented, will outperform a perfectly brilliant plan poorly implemented, every time...........
I would add that any early implementation of an unfinished plan is a ticket to failure every time.  Everything should be moved back a full year so that good ideas are not killed in the rush.
 
why have a qualification system that allows for participation in Majors or Nationals? What is the point?

I expect a factor or weighting will be given to Majors... and I think the design is to create competition at events (which is good) but it could be possible to run a "divisional" schedule and accomplish the same goal ... getting to run offs.. Is that accurate?
 
Finally, with Pete's help, something useful. Sebring will be a Majors! (A double Majors? 44 pts up?) At least we know when... little reason to ruin New Years Eve and Christmas holidays....

Okie
 
Mazda Jon":1no4ddlu said:
I'm looking forward to this, but I guess I'm still young enough to accept new things. :lol:
were
Doesn't matter what I have to do or where I have to go, I'll be at the Runoffs, where ever they are, in 2014.

Sounds like the lyrics of a country so ng. I knew a few guys that had this same" gotta go racin " mentality, they also filed for bankruptcy that ended their hobby. They also were young :lol:
 
I knew a few guys that had this same" gotta go racin " mentality, they also filed for bankruptcy that ended their hobby. They also were young :lol:[/quote]

I think you are correct.
 
Curtus,
I agree with you entirely, or most. They should first have a plan wrapped up and then they need to socialize the plan early in the year with the people affected for a next year implementation. Why were they surprised when they do a RA reschedule and find that those who wanted it most upset with the solution. Take that plan and go out to the members afferted for comments and ideas. What are their thoughts for improvement? Sure it would take 2 years, but what they did was to create and implement a plan using only their interpretation of what they were being told, and using your interpretations without testing them is not a sensible approach. What they didn't do was to put the plan together, and explain to us average racers who are good enough to run nationals, how this is going to help us. Ask for the thoughts of those affected. their thoughts. Push everything back a year. and then go out to the drivers and convince them that this will make the racing experience for that group of average racers better.


Curtis":1j5llggj said:
At least they included in the release that the BOD would be meeting in person soon to "vote" on some of the things still not thought through LOL :lol:

I am all for this change. It is needed, but this is now beyond embarrassing. This press release only answers a question nobody ask, then at the same time confesses and highlights everything we should and need to know by now, but don't.

There is a saying in business something like.......a mediocre plan flawlessly implemented, will outperform a perfectly brilliant plan poorly implemented, every time...........
I would add that any early implementation of an unfinished plan is a ticket to failure every time.  Everything should be moved back a full year so that good ideas are not killed in the rush.
 
Did they consult with the Regions that host races if they would like hosting the big "invitationals" (subsidized, of coarse), or changing or canceling other race dates to accommodate other "conference" schedules?

After last years losses and cancellations, some Regions may not want to continue hosting traditional dates/races.

Track calendar availability isn't as easy as it once was. Use it, or lose it. Hard to juggle / change traditional race dates.

Did they seek input from workers, whose participation numbers are shrinking faster than the drivers?

So many questions, so little time.

RJS
 
So little time and so few minds

R. J. Sorensen":2c5enqby said:
Did they consult with the Regions that host races if they would like hosting the big "invitationals" (subsidized, of coarse), or changing or canceling other race dates to accommodate other "conference" schedules?

After last years losses and cancellations, some Regions may not want to continue hosting traditional dates/races.

Track calendar availability isn't as easy as it once was. Use it, or lose it. Hard to juggle / change traditional race dates.

Did they seek input from workers, whose participation numbers are shrinking faster than the drivers?

So many questions, so little time.

RJS
 
If SCCA has a plan they should share it - in full now.

Obviously somebody has a plan or there would not have been Majors events this year.

If I understand this right Nationals points will be added to Majors points to get your personal total.

Making Majors points twice as high as Nationals points appears to be a blatant attempt to increase Majors participation and decrease Nationals participation.

Drive the National races out of existance.
Sounds like they have a plan.
.
 
I dont like calling the race a "majors".I like "Nationals"it has a history and meaning.Majors sounds like a ball game and its as bad as "American Le Mans".I dont why those guys went under?
 
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