Electromotive plug wires

Dayle Frame

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I'm going to an Electromotive ignition and need new plug wires. My motor builder told me that GM (Belden) makes the right wire. The manual for the HPV-1 says it wants 3K to 5K resistance per foot. So I go to a Napa this morning and they have nothing that has the right resistance. Not even close. Can someone give me a part number so I can get this sorted out? It shouldn't be this tricky but I guess it is.

Email me at frameh@msu.edu with any info you can offer.

Dayle
 
Dayle, I just called Magnecor told them what I was doing. They are familiar with the DFU end (it is chevy something) and you just need to tell them each length and what the other end is like.

Here's the section from the Tec GT manual:

C.8. Spark Plug Wire Selection
The TECgt outputs an extremely high-energy charge for the ignition coils. Resistor (carbon) core
wires work best with this charging method, since they absorb electrical noise generated by the coil firing
events. Use 8mm or larger RFI and EMI suppression wire with GM boots. We recommend using a carbon
core-style suppression wire with a resistance of 3,000 to 5,000 ohms per foot. SOLID CORE WIRES
SHOULD NEVER BE USED. Do not be misled by spark plug wire manufacturers claiming to give you a
“power increase” from their wire. The bottom line is that with our charging method, different spark plug
wires simply do not make a difference in terms of spark energy. However, there is a huge difference in
noise generated by different spark plug wire types (solid core wires generate a very high amount of noise
with our system).
Quoted from Magnecor’s Website:
“What is not generally understood (or is ignored) is that the potential 45,000 plus volts (with alternating
current characteristics) from the ignition coil does not flow through the entire the length of fine wire used
for a spiral conductor like the 1 volt DC voltage from a test ohmmeter, but flows in a magnetic field
surrounding the outermost surface of the spiral windings (skin effect). The same skin effect applies
equally to the same pulsating flow of current passing through carbon and solid metal conductors. A
spiral conductor with a low electrical resistance measured by a 1 volt DC ohmmeter indicates, in reality,
nothing other than less of the expensive fine wire is used for the conductor windings!
______________________________________________________________________________________
TECgt Manual Version 2.0
- Page 48 -
©2008 Electromotive, Inc.
Electrical devices, including spark plugs, use only the electrical energy necessary to perform the
function for which such devices are designed. Spark plug wires are nothing more than conductors, and
whereas a bad ignition wire's inefficient conductor can reduce the flow of electricity to the spark plug, an
ignition wire that reportedly generates an "increase" in spark energy will have no effect on the spark
jumping across the spark plug gap, since the energy consumed at the spark plug gap won't be any more
than what is needed to jump the gap. For a more obvious example of this, a 25watt light bulb won't use
any more energy or produce any more light if it's screwed into a socket wired for a 1000watt bulb.”
Due to the extremely high energy in the TECgt coil charging circuit, spark plug wires may wear out
faster than with a standard ignition. As such, it is recommended that the wires be checked periodically for
carbon tracking caused by a breakdown of the internal conductor element. Looking at the plug wires in a
dark area and wetting them with a spray bottle of water will reveal carbon tracking. Pay close attention to
the exposed section of the spark plug (where the rubber boot ends) during the test. To maximize spark plug
wire life, keep the lengths as short as possible (i.e. mount the DFU as close to the engine as possible).
Replacement of the wires on an annual basis is recommended for high-rpm/high-horsepower applications.
For an extremely high-quality wire with excellent noise suppression, we recommend the Magnecor
brand. Specifically, their “Electrosports 80” 8mm wire is very good with our system. Custom wire lengths
and ends are available from them so you will not need to crimp the wires yourself. They can be reached at
(248)669-6688 or on the web at: www.magnecor.com . Taylor Pro-Wire Silicon Resistor wires also work
well.
 
Dayle,
I bought a set of GM V6 wires fro my HPV1 which seem to work fine. They are cheaper than buying pieces and have molded ends with 4 that are a good length and 2 longer ones for spares which could be cut for another set. I think mine are Acetel (sp).
 
Buy an Accel SuperStock 4040 or 4041 universal 8mm V8 kit at Summit, Jegs, or local parts store, (resistor core) and you can build two sets for about $40.

That's what we use.

-Matt
 
Buy the Magnecor.
Nothing else is even close.
The product stands up to use much longer.
You can buy it by length and diameter. Plus the contact ends and boots are excellent.
( no i am not a dealer, but a 20+ year user )
I have never replaced any of their product after install, and every vehicle i have owned gets a set.
Plus, when you call, you get Steve, who is most helpful, and knows his craft.
My advice ? Skip the mass market sales house.

Cheers,
 
Matt Brannon":k8o1oaqi said:
Buy an Accel SuperStock 4040 or 4041 universal 8mm V8 kit at Summit, Jegs, or local parts store, (resistor core) and you can build two sets for about $40.

That's what we use.

-Matt

Second for Matt's idea they are more than capable, meet the 3-5K spec and seeing that your exhaust isn't near the plugs the additional protection that Magnacor offers isn't necessary. FWIW I had to replace the Magnacors on my LS1 every year, they would degrad quickly ~25HP peak loss but they did last longer then stock.
 
Matt Brannon":rmyoa0us said:
Buy an Accel SuperStock 4040 or 4041 universal 8mm V8 kit at Summit, Jegs, or local parts store, (resistor core) and you can build two sets for about $40.

That's what we use.

-Matt


X2 what Matt said. The Electromotive is picky as for what it likes for wires, and this is a very proven method on your car with a Electromotive.
 
joel hershoren":2htkxh6z said:
Buy the Magnecor.
Nothing else is even close.
Plus 1 in spades. Best wires I have ever had!!! Electromotive knows about Magnecor and Magnecor knows about Electromotive, so you get the right specs.
 
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