Discussion: Bias/Radial poll results

blamkin86

blamkin86

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What do you think of the poll results? Not being a statistician, I can say they are unscientific. However, that doesn't mean they're worthless.

Fully 2/3 of the voters either run Radials or plan to.

Additionally, at 50+ voters, I got more responses than I was expecting by about double.

As before, please try to be respectful of other's opinions, and stay on topic.
 
The only question I'd ask is why did most of us change?
Me it was due to tire life. I'm just about the same pace with either tire when new. The bias goes away in one race if I'm pushed to the limit by Trenery(s) or Weber. The radial will live to see another session. The last race at TWS Trenery Jr. and I ran nose to tail the whole time and both of us ended up on corded tires. Mine were three race old radials and his were second race bias. I can't get that much life from a bias, especially in the front, on the Honda.

I must admit that I loaned my car to Hoosier for the testing and allowed Tony Rivera to drive the car for the test. At the end of the day the wear level was the difference, not the lap times on new tires.

James -r
 
I am switching to the radials because the car was designed from the factory with radials. The additional camber the radials like will help with suspension setting of my Level 2 car.
 
James, so far that is where I am at. Tire budget forces me to get more from what I have. While the radial has a higher purchase price the life in the tire justifies it for me. The only downside has been the profile of the tire does not fill the wheel house like the canti.
 
Although I did "get out there" this year, I haven't really raced in the last two seasons.

When I switched to the radials, I did so for a couple reasons:

1) Hoosier was convinced they were faster. That was good enough for me.
2) I felt Bias Plies were going to go away, and I wanted to get started on the radial setup as soon as I could.

My experience is that best lap to best lap, the bias are still faster. However over the course of a race, there's no comparison as to average lap time - the bias go away and don't come back.

Other than camber and caster, I've made no changes specifically for the radials - maybe that's a mistake.

I do know I have never gone as fast on the radials at High Plains as I did the one and only time I ran there on Bias.

I also know the one race where I was actually respectably fast, with good people at the same event, was on the radials.
 
blamkin86":1yw6q9lr said:
Although I did "get out there" this year, I haven't really raced in the last two seasons.

When I switched to the radials, I did so for a couple reasons:

1) Hoosier was convinced they were faster. That was good enough for me.
2) I felt Bias Plies were going to go away, and I wanted to get started on the radial setup as soon as I could.

My experience is that best lap to best lap, the bias are still faster. However over the course of a race, there's no comparison as to average lap time - the bias go away and don't come back.

Other than camber and caster, I've made no changes specifically for the radials - maybe that's a mistake.

I do know I have never gone as fast on the radials at High Plains as I did the one and only time I ran there on Bias.

I also know the one race where I was actually respectably fast, with good people at the same event, was on the radials.
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The radials want more of everything.
 
Obviously a whole lot of people have switched, or are planning to switch:

Why did you switch?

Are you happy with Radials?

Do they warrant any rules changes?
 
GY stopped making the 8 by 20 on 13 that I liked
I never had a set of H bias that held air worth a darn
Figured that the H radials might be better - they are - still good since June

Am I happy with the radials - yes, even with the same alignment as the GY bias
 
racer_tim":21oict6u said:
If the Hoosier Radials hold air better than their BIOS ones, I'll be on them starting next year.
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You must not have talked to anyone who is running the Hoosier radials. They hold air better than some ****** ***** that I have. Didn't lose a pound over the winter.

As for why I switched, as others I thought that the bias were going away so I would get a head start on learning radials. After dialing them in with the set-up of the car, they have been great for me. I picked up an MPH or two on the straight, they stick as good as the bias, they wear better, and contrary to what some say, they seem to be predictable, at least for me. For a while I couldn't say that I went faster with them, as fast maybe, but now I can say they are faster than the bias ply on my car. And with the live axel rear I can't plug in any camber, and they still work good.
 
I switched to the radials last year. Primary reason is the spitfire chewed up bias plys like a puppy chews shoes. I will say they are faster on my car. A complete transformation.
And as I continue to dial in the setup they are getting faster.

Contrary to others. I think they are predictable. A different predictable than the bias but predictable. You have to be comfortable sliding the car a bit and confident that the slide will hold.

I've played around with the 190's and 215's. I can say if I go to Daytona I will be on the 190's
 
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